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From: Gabe da Silveira <gabe@websaviour.com>
To: Michael Grosser <michael@grosser.it>
Cc: Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>, unicorn-public@bogomips.org
Subject: Re: Please move to github
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 17:48:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGPQN9NjtCsEMFCr=r_YA3QvCTeERfhfPPy+=cdcYk39RSRkiA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAms34N2_b6-cPmvXD3u7v6oUeMgHkHQhDMDbzk+MMdDarzXJQ@mail.gmail.com>

I am a huge fan of GitHub and use it daily in my professional job, but both
the original message and now this comes off full of youthful arrogance and
hubris (in addition to abysmal grammar). GitHub is not the only way to do
open-source, and developers who refuse to use something other than GitHub
tend to be people impressed by superficial polish, but lacking
understanding in the type of deep engineering that allows for things like
the Linux kernel (or preforking app servers like Unicorn) to work.  There
is more to software engineering than what is fashionable in the last 5
years.  Please be more respectful of the maintainers of serious software
like Unicorn than to piss on their choice of project management tools and
techniques.


On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Michael Grosser <michael@grosser.it> wrote:

> Using github would mean more contributors, better software and
> especially helping more people (compare patches/issues/communication
> on unicorn to any other os project and github and the difference
> should be apparent),
> and I think that's what OS is about ... it's not ideal, but it's the
> best we got.
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Eric Wong <e@80x24.org> wrote:
> > Michael Grosser <michael@grosser.it> wrote:
> >> Current state makes it very hard to mange/search/fork/open-issues etc
> >> especially for newcomers,
> >> please move the project to github so we can have nice disussions
> >> forks/prs etc goodness.
> >
> > No.  Never.  Github is proprietary communications tool which requires
> > users to accept a terms of service and login.  That gives power and
> > influence to a single entity (and a for-profit organization at that).
> >
> > Contributing to unicorn is *socially* as easy as contributing to git or
> > the Linux kernel.  There is no need to signup for anything, no need to
> > ever touch a bloated web browser.
> >
> > The reason I contribute to Free Software is because I am against any
> > sort of lock-in or proprietary features.  It absolutely sickens me to
> > encounter users who seem to be incapable of using git without a
> > proprietary communications tool.
>
>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-08-01 22:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-01 20:27 Please move to github Michael Grosser
2014-08-01 21:32 ` Eric Wong
2014-08-01 22:27   ` Michael Grosser
2014-08-01 22:41     ` Eric Wong
     [not found]       ` <CAAms34NByMcXnbGQ3DvCZTsQuh6yBn8sMSNeTi7Ss4VmmYoOrQ@mail.gmail.com>
2014-08-01 23:07         ` Eric Wong
2014-08-01 22:48     ` Gabe da Silveira [this message]
2014-08-01 23:09       ` Xavier Noria
2014-08-01 23:12         ` Michael Grosser
2014-08-01 23:24           ` Eric Wong
2014-08-01 23:26           ` Daniel Evans
2014-08-01 23:38             ` Michael Grosser
2014-08-01 23:18         ` Aaron Suggs
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-08-01 22:32 Victor Kmita
2014-08-02  7:46 Gary Grossman
2014-08-02  7:51 Gary Grossman
2014-08-02  7:54 ` Kapil Israni
2014-08-02  8:02   ` Eric Wong
2014-08-02  8:50 ` Eric Wong
2014-08-02 19:07   ` Gary Grossman
2014-08-02 19:33     ` Michael Fischer
2014-08-04  7:22       ` Hongli Lai
2014-08-02 20:15     ` Eric Wong

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