From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=3.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from localhost (dcvr.yhbt.net [127.0.0.1]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB9020966; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:36:57 +0000 From: Eric Wong To: "Lin Jen-Shin (godfat)" Cc: kcar-public@bogomips.org Subject: [PATCH] README: add info about mailing list subscription Message-ID: <20170410173657.GA4203@starla> References: <20170410145416.GA29475@starla> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: "Lin Jen-Shin (godfat)" wrote: > On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Eric Wong wrote: > > mlmmj uses plus-addressing: kcar-public+subscribe@bogomips.org > > Ohh, sorry about that. I spent a few seconds and cannot find > how to subscribe it so I decided to just try it. Mentioning this > in the README would be nice. (or I guess you might want to > reduce the subscribers therefore not mentioning it? :P) Yeah, I didn't really want it; but I suppose it's better than "subscribe" messages coming to the list. Patch below. > > Also, I'm considering writing something which downloads NNTP > > messages(*) and uploads to IMAP servers to reduce SMTP > > subscribers on my mailing lists; similar to how the feed2imap > > RubyGem works for RSS/Atom feeds. > > > > > > Would you consider using that? (or writing something like that > > yourself? :) > > Sorry that I don't really understand how this works. For myself, > as long as there's an easy way to subscribe to the mailing list, > whatever should work for me. I guess another question is: do you use IMAP to read mail or webmail (or something else, POP3)? With nntp2imap, it might be something like: ==> ~/.nntp2imap/rc.yml <= --- groups: - name: kcar source: nntp://news.public-inbox.org/inbox.comp.lang.ruby.kcar destination: imaps://username@yourserver.example.com/INBOX.kcar ... That way, I would have no information about who reads the list (especially if you use something like Tor to anonymize yourself) Another option might be Atom feeds; but Message-ID headers tend to get lost when people want to reply... For a sysadmin, the beauty of NNTP is there's no per-client state stored on the server itself. It's all in the client. Same for Atom feeds. I might also work on a POP3 server; but that also means my server still needs to track (anonymous) accounts to avoid delivering duplicate messages; so it's about the same storage overhead as SMTP delivery. The nice thing about POP3 (AFAIK) is all the major webmail providers provide a POP3 import support. I don't know of any which provide NNTP import support. And of course, 3rd parties may also run the POP3 server as a service to gateway any NNTP server. > I really hope I would have time to work on making plaintext > world more accessible and convenient to use. Unfortunately > the rich world is moving too fast and it's hard to catch up > with merely some free time... So I would try to follow up, > but probably can't spend too much time writing it unless > fortunately it's aligning to my day-to-day works. No worries. --------8<--------- Subject: [PATCH] README: add info about mailing list subscription But of course, add a disclaimers :> --- README | 12 ++++++++++-- 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/README b/README index c735a76..b1a577d 100644 --- a/README +++ b/README @@ -86,6 +86,14 @@ All feedback (bug reports, user/development discussion, patches, pull requests) go to the public mailing list: mailto:kcar-public@bogomips.org All mail is archived publically at: https://bogomips.org/kcar-public/ and nntp://news.public-inbox.org/inbox.comp.lang.ruby.kcar -Anonymous requests will always be welcome. -No subscription is necessary to post to the mailing list. + +Anonymous posts will always be welcome. + +No subscription is necessary to post to the mailing list; +but you may subscribe by sending a plain-text mail to: + + mailto:kcar-public+subscribe@bogomips.org + +Keep in mind we suck at delivering email, so using NNTP or +Atom feeds might be a better bet. Please remember to Cc: all recipients as subscription is optional. -- EW