From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=3.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from localhost (dcvr.yhbt.net [127.0.0.1]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46211FAFB; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 07:29:39 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 07:29:39 +0000 From: Eric Wong To: "Lin Jen-Shin (godfat)" Cc: kcar-public@bogomips.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] README: add info about mailing list subscription Message-ID: <20170411072939.GA29089@whir> References: <20170410145416.GA29475@starla> <20170410173657.GA4203@starla> <20170410203905.GA2922@whir> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: "Lin Jen-Shin (godfat)" wrote: > On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 4:39 AM, Eric Wong wrote: > > "Lin Jen-Shin (godfat)" wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 1:36 AM, Eric Wong wrote: > >> > I guess another question is: do you use IMAP to read mail > >> > or webmail (or something else, POP3)? > >> > >> Oh, now I understand what you're saying. Unfortunately > >> I am currently stuck with GMail, using the web interface. > >> I could setup POP3 to receive emails into my inbox (I did so > >> for some other accounts), but I guess I could not setup IMAP > >> for GMail. > > > > Actually, GMail supports SMTP and IMAP; they just give scary > > warnings about enabling them because they lack 2FA support. > > git manpages for git-imap-send(1) and git-send-email(1) > > document GMail support, even. > > I think GMail does support IMAP as a server, but not as a client? > I thought if you're setting up an IMAP server, I need to use an > IMAP client to fetch the mails? Or that's not the plan? Or I > misunderstand how IMAP works. I never really used it. Yes; that's what I meant. Sorry for the confusion... nntp2imap would work like feed2imap currently does: The client (your machine) downloads from a server via (NNTP|RSS|Atom) and writes to any IMAP inbox, also as a client. Nothing I've talked about involves either me or readers of this list (you included) running a new IMAP server :) But yeah, AFAIK GMail allows you to use any IMAP client (including feed2imap) to write mail to GMail servers; which you can then read via webmail or another IMAP client. I guess part where I confused you is GMail supports POP3 both as a client (so they can read mail off your ISP/work/school mail servers) and as a server (so you can also read all the messages they can also read :) But yeah, POP3 is rather dated since most people prefer email accessible from multiple machines and it's clumsy with POP3. Maybe some janky arrows in ASCII art will help: >----SMTP ---->+ (you) <----POP3----<-+ .----< POP3 ---< (work|ISP|school POP3) ^----<----webmail->-> GMail < +----<----IMAP---->-' `-----< SMTP--< (rest of the world) ^ | |`---< feed2imap --<- RSS/Atom feeds | `---< nntp2imap --<- NNTP *shrug* /me is sleepy :x > > be a part of yahns (Ruby) and not part of public-inbox (Perl5) > > at this point; so maybe you would be willing host that for > > other people, too :) > > Yeah, sure, as long as I don't have to expand my existing server, > I am willing to host it and maintain it for other people. Thanks for the feedback. One of my goals is to keep Free Software inexpensive to run :)