From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=3.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 shortcircuit=no autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from localhost (dcvr.yhbt.net [127.0.0.1]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78D31FF70; Tue, 7 Jun 2016 14:14:15 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 14:14:15 +0000 From: Eric Wong To: unicorn-public@bogomips.org Subject: Re: if you want to unsubscribe Message-ID: <20160607141415.GB4500@dcvr.yhbt.net> References: <20160108-if-you-want-to-unsubscribe@bogomips.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160108-if-you-want-to-unsubscribe@bogomips.org> List-Id: Eric Wong wrote: > mlmmj[1] needs to know YOUR email address when you email: > > unicorn-public+unsubscribe@bogomips.org > > Do NOT use "unroll.me" or similar services. > > They are meant for unsubscribing from marketing lists with unique > unsubscription addresses for each recipient. That's not how > discussion list managers like mlmmj, ezmlm, or Mailman work. Actually, if the unique URL is in the List-Unsubscribe header, it won't be accidentally quoted in discussions. So I just enabled some gory changes which should add a unique, per-user URL to the List-Unsubscribe: header. You should see something like the following in your headers: List-Unsubscribe: , The https:// link should be one-click, no-confirmation, unsubscribe which hopefully makes SORBS and similar services happy. Yes, that's a destructive GET request with no confirmation. And barely-tested :) > [1] http://mlmmj.org/ > > Dealing with bounces and unsubscription is why I prefer people > read mailing lists over NNTP or HTTP: Soon, it will be possible to subscribe using POP3, too, totally anonymously using a UUID you generate. It actually makes sense with all the webmail providers which support it. > nntp://news.public-inbox.org/inbox.comp.lang.ruby.unicorn > nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.ruby.unicorn.general > http://bogomips.org/unicorn-public/ > > You'll never need a subscription or even a valid reply > address to mail this list. HTTPS is also available, as long as Let's Encrypt runs: https://bogomips.org/unicorn-public/ And Tor hidden service: http://ou63pmih66umazou.onion/unicorn-public/ nntp://ou63pmih66umazou.onion/inbox.comp.lang.ruby.unicorn torsocks git clone git://ou63pmih66umazou.onion/unicorn # for code I don't know how stable the hidden service names will be given how short they are; I know Tor devs are planning a transition to longer, harder-to-collide ones. All I know is, there will be more hidden service mirrors. [1] https://public-inbox.org/meta/20160520213655.19381-1-e@80x24.org/T/ git clone git://80x24.org/public-inbox